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With the utmost respect many of the statements in particular those by Zilla just
confirm to me just how AROGANT, IGNORANT, BRAIN WASHED and FOOLISH
the *average* United Americans is.

I love america and I love many of its people but to me Septemeber 11th is clearly
caused by something. So many of you in the states have no idea just how much blood
has been spilled in the name of your country and to protect your way of life. It is time
you accept responsibility for the crimes against humanity YOU have commited.

Who practily wipped out the native American indians.

Who dropped TWO nuclear bombs in major japanease cities? Wouldn't one
have been enough?

Who thinks the death penalty is acceptable. Its NOT. It is MURDER. And consequently
your constatution is a MURDERER

Who thinks its OK for people to have GUNS.

Who BRAINWASHES its people to the same extent as the NAZIS did?

Who pulled out of the Keoto agreement? Who put there fingure up to the environment?

Which nation really has an EVIL DICTATOR?

Which country rigged its last election? Thats not very democratic!

Which people are BLIND to the realities.

Which people do NOT realise the majoritry of the world thinks you are BULLIES.

It is time to stop PLUNDERING the rest of the world to protect your way of life.

Realise while we may feel sympathy for those who died on septemeber 11th
it is nothing in comparison to the sympathy we feel for the MILLIONS who have died
elsewhere
to ensure YOU can put GAS in your TANK.

If you travel the world you will open your mind to the realities. YOU will realise that
things are NOT
as simple as you might think. Come to Europe where we are a lot closer to Democracy
than you.
See the HATRED towards the USA in EASTERN EUROPE. WHY? WHY? WHY? I dont know
but what I do know is I know very little and I HATE your PATRIOTISM. It is Sickening.
America
is NOt the greatest nation on Earth. FAR FAR from it. America is a leach that sucks at the
worlds
resources, impoverishing millions. YOU are to blame for so much suffering. OPEN YOUR
EYES
PLEASE OPEN YOUR EYES.

NOTE FROM ZILLA - the above email, #286 came fram a British email address.

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Zilla,

You have an excellent website, and I have great respect for you. I feel that all people deserve respect, because they are all a separate being with separate beliefs and so on. I am a fellow American. Certainly America has a right to be angry about the Sep 11 attacks. And President Bush was right when he said we should fight a war against terrorism. However, there are several ways to fight that war. We do not have to start killing anyone suspected of terrorism. To me, that sounds similar to the Salem Witch Trials. Now, President Bush is considering waging war on Iraq because he suspects that Saddam Hussein may have nuclear materials. Bush says that he will not first get a resolution of support from the U.N. Security Council for such an attack. And, White House lawyers have told President Bush he would not need congressional approval to attack Saddam Hussein. I feel that President Bush is angering the rest of the world, taunting them with a stick. I don't understand it. I am losing faith in Bush very quickly. And, I just wanted to mention to the rest of the world that while President Bush may represent the United States and may deserve respect as a President, he is not the United States. He is an individual, just as we all are. Thanks. World peace, love, and happiness to my brothers and sisters.
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This is to the ASSHOLE (from Britain) who posted message #18. Pal, you are HYPOCRISY personified! I love England and our camraderie, but for you to sit there and spout ignorant statements is more than I can stand. In the past, the British oppressed ALL of the colonies and territories they set foot in: India, China, South Africa, Ireland, the United States, etc. In FACT, the British felt it perfectly fine to brutally subjugate the peoples of color by excluding them from the society the natural wealth created by stealing the resources of let's say South Africa (for their gold and diamonds), building a comfortable society for themselves and leaving the native populace to fight for the scraps that were left IF ANY! My love for England allows me to forgive the natural rendency of many Brits to look down their noses at most of the world. If we oppress people, we respond to the cries of the populace and try to work things out in such a manner that will benefit both sides equitably. We never said that we were or are perfect. When Britain oppressed people in the past, they cared NOTHING for the ones who were crushed under her heel. You need to look a HARD look in a mirror, pal, 'cos you seem to be comfortable living in a glass house.
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i am employed by the british security services. prior to 9/11 i was conducting intel gathering operations in london against sheik omar bakri mohammed (syrian born bin laden supporter) sheik omar wanted me to train "jihad" fighters in london for dispatch to kashmir. this operation was stopped prior to 9/11, neither the british nor the u.s security service departments seemed intrested in on-site intel regarding islamic para-military action and training.

i continue to infiltrate and destroy terrorist cells worldwide.

vengeance is mine!

the jackal.
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I sent in #275 shortly after it all went down, and after re-reading it today, I still stand by everything I said then. But after a year has gone by, and we've all seen the events since, I must add a few things...

1) The Soviet Union and the Berlin Wall fell because the regimes in those countries, who decried our Democratic way of life as "Evil", could not succeed and prosper by trying to mandate everything. The State owned everything. Despite years and years of propaganda, they could not sustain a viable level of happiness and prosperity, because the people did not receive enough benefit to keep them content. The people did not have the freedom to do what they want, to own what they produce, to be individually expressive. The people wanted what we take for granted, i.e. happiness, liberty, prosperity, etc. The people chose - they want what we have.

Freedom.

2) Our way of life, although it - by its very benefits - allows us to become, often, blissfully ignorant of the suffering of the less fortunate, gives us a nation that we support. Without the need for propaganda to delude us into supporting it. Not that we don't have propaganda working, even here, it's just that this nation does not need to rely on the smoke-and-mirrors OF propaganda to force or fool us into thinking we're lucky or happy. We KNOW we're happy, we KNOW we're successful, we KNOW we're free to express our beliefs. Which is why we have a deep-seated love for our country. A love that comes from within, not from without. This country - which is not to say any certain administration, but this COUNTRY and its PRINCIPLES - earns our respect and our love. Because, unlike so many other nations, we have Hope. Which comes mainly from one thing we have so much of:

Freedom.

3) When the Towers fell, our hearts fell with them. But unlike the Towers, or the Berlin Wall, or Communism, our hearts will not stay down. Because, no matter what anyone takes away or destroys, we can always rise up from the ashes on the wings of Hope. Because we have Hope, which is born of...

Freedom.

Confucius said "Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."
Which is why America is the success story of the modern world. Sure, we fall. But we always - always - rise again. Our greatest asset is our people. Our people's greatest asset is our Hope.

And our Freedom.

God Bless Us, Every One.

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Today is November 17, 2002. It has been well over a year since the cowards who deem themselves heroic martyrs killed thousands of people of all races and religions on September 11th, 2001. I am sure they are having a most unusual experience as they roast in the flames of Hell.

I just wanted to write a small letter to let the rest of the world out side of America to let everyone know the condition of this country. America is still here. Our stock market did not fail and collapse. The unemployment rate is actually down since the terrorist attacks. Our military is in good spirits, well equiped and highly motivated. Our football games, basketball games, hockey games, and our baseball games are still going. We Americans still go to our crowded shopping malls and movie theaters and enjoy our selves, spending more money than we should, but having a wonderful time doing so. We are also still enjoying our night clubs, bars, NASCAR events, museums, Zoos, public parks and churches (regardless of religion). We Americans do not take our country for granted. Should anyone ever attempt to attack America again, the same thing will happen. We will find the attackers, kill them, kill there supporters, invade the country hiding them, remove their government, enforce our American will however we feel to be appropriate, and after all of this is done we will go to our football games, go out to our nice restaurants, see a movie, take a long drive in our cars out in the beautiful country side, or maybe even catch a plane ride to a nice vacation resort. In short, we will still be here long after the terrorists, the entire terrorist organization, the governments backing these organizations and the countries supporting these organizations are removed, whether by their own conscious choice or by their own blood, are long gone. This is all also true should you attack our allies (United Kingdom, Canada, etc.)

America is a big, strong and wealthy country. It is no wonder why so many countries blame us for their problems. A person can hate America as much as they want to and for what ever reason they choose. When you attack us just keep in mind what will happen to your country, your government, your organization, your family, your friends. Religious or not, we will prevail over such cowardly acts of yesterday, today, tomorrow, and forever.

God Bless The United States Of America.

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Dear Zilla,

I am French and I have just discovered your website and all
the emails following your statement. Most of them are full
of hatred and blind statements and I can understand that as
a first reaction after 9/11. Other emails, more relevant,
try basically to ask why 9/11 happened and I think this is
basically a good starting question.
Ask also yourselves what will be the consequences of the
current US foreign policy?
A good book give answers to these questions:

The Rogue State by William Blum and published by Common
Courage Press

All arguments are backed by quotes of US politicians (from
all political parties) and extracts from old confidential
documents put into the public domain. I can tell you that
this is not pretty at all.
As a friend of the US, I recommend it to all US citizens
(and do not judge it as 'antipatriotic' or too 'lefty' by
simply looking at the name of the author. This kind of
reaction make me really angry because it is a blank
statement. READ BEFORE then give your opinion after).
You will see that the war on terrorism (that began before
Bush) is a dangerous waste of time. You will never be able
to eradicate violence by using violence (this is all the
more the case that terrorists, who are not irrational
people, are ready to die). As good Christians, all US
citizens should know that.
You want better solutions:
-Stop to impose your own economic model to the world (via
the IMF and the World Bank).
-Stop to control all international institutions for your
own profit: IMF, World Bank but also the UN (which contains
the International Court to which many US politicians should
be sued for war crimes).
-Help countries to develop by helping them to eradicate
corruption, to finance the education of their population,
to provide the basic needs. (you did it for Western Europe
after WWII, why can you do it now that you are richer than
ever?).
-All developed countries should do the same (and for the
moment they are going the wrong way). Share your wealth,
and your knowledge to improve the world!

Since the end of the WWII, the US, as all dominant
countries before the US (England, France, Germany and
others), has imposed itself to create its own empire. Doing
so, it has been one of the most violent State ever,
creating anger and frustration in numerous countries.

Too all people in the world: Think before talking (or
writing). And read, do not watch TV all the time or you
will be brain washed.

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To all our men and women in the military....Words cannot express the respect, the pride I feel for each and every one of you!!

They haven't proved it yet...but you know bin laden is dead..food for pigs!
sadam, or as I call him sodamn insane.....your'e next, buddy....I'd hate to be in your shoes...

Thanks, Zilla, for letting me post this..
An American

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O.k...9/11/01 was tragic in everyone's eyes...or just about
everyone's eyes. But don't you think it's kind of suspicious
how the corporations/companies and their presidents and
owners are the only ones still dwelling on this? They're
making out like bandits with all their down-sizing, cut-
backs, lay-offs...etc....and they are still blaming 9/11!
The rest of the country has moved on...why don't these
people? There are grants and bills and everything else out
there to cover their losses but still...they are losing money
so they have to keep cutting back?....WRONG!
The only reason these people are doing what they're
doing is because it's putting more money in their pockets!
And as long as the government keeps letting them, they'll
keep killing the working people to put more money in their
own pockets! This is why it was so important for them to
get a republican back in office this last election...(i.e. the
whole ballot scandal thingy goin on) because a democratic
leader wouldn't have let it go this far!
The rich, republican, owners and presidents of this
country....the corporations and companies are doing more
damage to this nation's economy than any terrorists could
have ever hoped to do! I ask you now, are we all so sure of
who was behind all this?
Greed is a very evil thing. And it is proving that right now
as I type this. So many things are apparent that point a
finger, not at other countries but at our own rich, greedy
assholes. This will all be blown open real soon. Writings
and evidence as to the hows and whys are all coming!
Keep your eyes and ears open....and stay tuned...These
people deserve what is in store for them...And they WILL
get what is coming!
Justice and the working people of this country WILL
prevail! It's time to EAT THE RICH, people!!!
If I die of unnatural causes after this is posted when and
where ever I can get it posted, copies have been made.
Many TRUE Americans have been notified and there WILL
be investigations. Real Americans do not use patriotism,
God, other countries nor the people of their own country to
pull off what these people are pulling off. Real Americans
do NOT use the deaths of so many innocent people to do
what these people are doing.
Sorry if I have offended anybody but the truth WILL come
out!

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From Zilla (and I hope you will send your thoughts on this...send to webmaster@thumbzilla.com):

You probably missed it in the rush of news last week, but there was actually a report that someone in Pakistan had published in a newspaper an offer of a reward to anyone who killed an American, any American.

So an Australian dentist wrote the following to let everyone know what an American is, so they would know when they found one:

An American is English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish, Polish, Russian or Greek. An American may also be Canadian, Mexican, African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian, or Arab, or Pakistani, or Afghani. An American may also be a Cherokee, Osage, Blackfoot, Navaho, Apache, Seminole or one of the many other tribes known as native Americans.

An American is Christian, or he could be Jewish, or Buddhist, or Muslim. In fact, there are more Muslims in America than in Afghanistan. The only difference is that in America they are free to worship as each of them chooses. An American is also free to believe in no religion. For that he will answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to speak for the government and for God.

An American is from the most prosperous land in the history of the world. The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of Independence, which recognizes the God given right of each person the pursuit of happiness.

An American is generous. Americans have helped out just about every other nation in the world in their time of need. When Afghanistan was overrun by the Soviet army 20 years ago, Americans came with arms and supplies to enable the people to win back their country. As of the morning of September 11, Americans had given more than any other nation to the poor in Afghanistan.

Americans welcome the best, the best products, the best books, the best music, the best food, the best athletes. But they also welcome the least.

The national symbol of America, The Statue of Liberty, welcomes your tired and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores, the homeless, tempest tossed. These in fact are the people who built America. Some of them were working in the Twin Towers the morning of September 11, 2001 earning a better life for their families. I've been told that the World Trade Center victims were from at least 30 other countries, cultures, and first languages, including those that aided and abetted the terrorists.

So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did. So did General Tojo, and Stalin, and Mao Tse-Tung, and every bloodthirsty tyrant in the history of the world. But, in doing so you would just be killing yourself. Because Americans are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American.

THE WAR TO LIBERATE THE IRAQI PEOPLE FROM SADAAM HUSSEIN'S OPPRESSIVE REGIME HAS BEGUN - MAY THE POWER OF RIGHTEOUSNESS BE WITH US! -- ZILLA

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Hello once again Zilla!

I wrote an email to you some time ago which you graciously published on
your website. Thanks!

I have been most impressed by your efforts to allow individuals to express
their opinions about what happened on that terrible day, and I am quite
sad that it seems to have come to an end, for some reason.

May I suggest to you that the recent events surrounding the possibly impending
war against Iraq might be a good topic of conversation to initiate? It is
very relevant in terms of fundamentalist points of view, and one could unveil
some extremely interesting points of view about a very delicate and possibly
highly dangerous subject.

I look forward to the possibility of a 'Sadman Hussein' page.

Yours sincerely,

(name) from England (my email has changed as my pc has crashed and local
email is down!! Please tell no-one, this is a secret email address! trusting
u)) THANX!

ps love your site dood!

pps here is what u posted for me...article 281.......

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From a Brit,

we are being dragged into your war, you want your own empire go for it just try to leave us out

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Hi:- this is to try and give a canadian point of view. I strongly support the war on terrorism as that day was indeed a brutal act of war and an act of cowardice as well.
these groups that think that suicide bombings and killing of innocent peoples is going to change the way we live are sadly mistaken. they may have won the first round as we do tend to live in a bit more fear these days since then, but they will lose the war as eventually- all good free people that get caught in a situation amongst terrorists will rise up no matter what the consequences to defeat them and that is what they don't seem to understand.
also- altho canada is not helping much with the war in iraq, i hope that americans are not pissed off because we are not in the coalition. to even suggest that the canadian forces could be a force in this fight is a joke to americans anyway. we canadians are known for peacekeeping so my friends to the south-go defeat the enemies of democracy and hopefully canada can contribute and help you in other ways afterwards. with all the hope and good wishes i can muster during these trying times- i wish you all well.

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WHAT THE HELL IS THE GUY FROM ENGLANDS
PROBLEM?UNDER EUROPEAN RULE BEGAN
THE KILLING OF INDIANS IN THE AMERICAS.AND WHILE
IM AT IT,LETS NOT FORGET THE ENGLISH CONQUEST
OF S.AFRICA,INDIA,CHINA AND LETS NOT FORGET
THE GOOD OL USA.MAYBE WHEN THEY FLY A
PLANE INTO BUCKINGHAM PALACE IT WILL WAKE
THIS GUY UP.
FROM (name)
U.S.FUCKIN A.

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As an English man now living in Canada ,i have to say how ashamed i am that our Canadian goverment has not come out in support of the US/Britsh stand against evil.Many of us living up in canada do not feel that our govt speeks for the majority of the people.No matter how long it takes the fight against saddam hussain will be won!!Good luck to all coallition solders Navy and airforce! Soon you will be able to quote sir Winston Chuchill and say :This was our finesthour: Good Luck and godspeed!

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From a Brit,

In response to earlier criticisms, I keep hearing about British and past European empires?
how long ago was that? do past British atrocities excuse you your own now?

The main reason europeans get so wound up by this situation is that they feel
that right or wrong, what ever the facts or the arguments put you will plough ahead
regardless. We were told that war would be over in a jiffy, welcoming arms, flowers thrown etc..
hasn't happened much yet. The excuse is that they are still scared of Sadam, but the
American army scares them just as much.

The black and white view of the world, good and evil as Mr Bush presents it
is dangerous, the last guy we heard that from was Osma. Im sure he thinks hes right as well.
Don't worry everyone over here hates him as well, but nobody trusts Bush.

What ever they have told you there the vast majority of Brits are still against the
war, yet are view does not count in our own parliament, when your done in Baghdad
could you come help us?

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Greetings ZILLA,

We just found your site and the 11 pages (http://www.thumbzilla.com/america.html) on the responses to the Tragedy at the Twin Towers and Pentagon. Well, just to ADD TO THOSE opinions, here is what our org sent to the US PRESIDENT, MR. BUSH and for the AMERICAN PEOPLE. You may chose to hide the html addresses and also our names or not... it doesn't matter, its your choice. Yet, thanks again for featuring such a voice and we hope that our response will be informative... WE, AS ETHIOPIAN RASTAS ARE TOGATHER AGAINST ALL FORMS OF TERRORISM!!! We also lost people in that tragic incident, yet it wasn't the first time that such attacks have been against us... yet as H.I.M. HAILE SELLASSIE I of Ethiopia said in a speech to the U.N. in the 60s and BOB MARLEY sung about it as well... "...WE WILL FIGHT, IF NECESSARY, AS WE ARE CONFIDENT IN THE VICTORY OF GOOD OVER evil...." BOB MARLEY's "WAR" SONG was based on these words of our King of kings... We the NEW GENERATION continue the works of TRUTH and RIGHTS, LOVE and LIGHT. We also say thanks for being as "concientious" to even include such on your site... It surprised us when the link was given, because most would think otherwise. Yet, thank you and feel free to use or not-use our link. We are servants of our scattered people and are not ashamed to stand with those who are speaking against terrorism, especially the 9-11... which still makes us feel sorry for the innocent. We must be READY cos there most likely will be more - in America and also in Africa as the two attacks by Al Qaeda have already hurt us - WE WILL FIGHT AND DEFEAT TERRORISM and these attacks against the innocent. Thank you for this opportunity to give our voice with those who are concern and willing to "GET UP, STAND UP.... STAND UP FOR OUR RIGHTS!!!"

ONE LOVE,
RAS IADONIS,
LOJ

http://geocities.com/rastasan/ethiopiacondolences.html

http://geocities.com/rastasan/rastasan

http://geocities.com/rastasan/

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Hey zilla, cool site. Anyway...
My Dad also was a vietnam vet, and we share the same opinions on most of
this war, whether its Saddam's palace or in Afghanistan. And we are still
angry. I have seen people with flag shaped bumperstickers that say "America
United" as they drive down to join the local protesters against the war.
Whatever. As the months have passed, I have seen alot of America settle back
in and forget what happened, trying to get rid of the smell of the smoke
that still lingers everywhere. And it makes me sick. I get sick when I see
parents using there kids as pawns to hold signs saying give peace a chance.
These kids barely know how to wipe their own ass and they want this peace.
Obviously all these people have forgotten the price freedom comes as. Blood.
Go to any blood bank and find out how rare and precious this accomodation
is. Yes peace people, I know you support our soldiers and blah blah blah.
Lord knows you don't want to be the next Hanoi Jane. Most of them have no
room to talk. They have never been in a war. Never had to run for your life.
Never had to realize that this next incoming round might be the last one you
hear. And they talk. And they protest. Funny, maybe we should have protested
when they hijacked the planes and told them to give peace a chance, they
would have thought it over and said "Awww ok..." And landed all soft and
snuggly. Maybe we should have protested to Saddam that killing thousands of
his own people BECAUSE THEY PROTESTED HIM is wrong and he needs to give
peace a chance, maybe he will listen. oops I guess its too late to ask him
that... darn. How about if you take your signs and children, go to the west
bank or the Gaza Strip and protest against war there? Tell all them to give
peace a chance. No? Why not? Exactly...cause you are all nice and warm in
your own pile of shit arent you? You would never go there to do that cause
you and your kids would be shot dead. I don't like war. I don't like that
people have to die. But they do. But we should not give up. We will get
comfy again and these monsters will be back. I guarantee you that. And it
might be your town, your school where your kids are at. The first trade
Center attack happened in 1993, and we got all comfy again. We didn't learn
from the past and we repeated it. These sick people will not give up. We all
are their enemy whether you had something to do with it or not. They don't
care and never will. Make sure to ask them to give peace a chance when they
stand above you and they let the hammer fall. By the way, I am Apache, and I
will tell you this; Yes our way of life was changed, yes our numbers were
decimated, and yes, 'they' took our land. BUT,the truths came out about us.
Just like the truths of the black man and the chinese and the mexican etc.
came out. But if it was not them it could have been a monster alot worse and
we could have been extinct. I have forgiven all my anscestors enemies, and
moved on. That still makes me an American. I got over it You do the same.
Don't teach your kids this same hate. Yes bad things happened and all the
truth is there, But that has nothing to do with anything when you are at the
airport and some freak runs up to you with fifteen pounds of tnt on his
chest and blows himself up in the name of 'Allah'. The last thing you will
be thinking about is an American Indian...

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How ignorant can you Americans be ??!!!
I am British and know no-one who feels regret at what happened to your country on September the eleventh, two years ago.

Ok, so 3000 people died. Horrible.

What about the 40 million civilians murdered by America in various bomb attacks on at least 25 countries since the end of the 2nd. World War?!!!!!

Your sad country is hated by the rest of the planet for its ignorance, arrogance and aggression, the like of which is unmatched by any other country on earth.

Your stupid, aggressive behaviour, in the quest for economic gain and domination, is resented so deeply that you don't even see it.

Your children are less educated than europeans, fatter than any nation on Earth, and stupid enough to believe that their country is superior!, whan actually, you are the most undereducated (so if you know nothing, you will believe anything, and thus do what they tell you) race of ignorant shits on this planet. Your country is nothing , and so are you.

You don't even understand WHY the attack happened, for Christ's sake!!!!!! Look at your cunt of a society!

Fuck you, sad bastard tiny sample of human existence.

ENGLAND HATES YOU. Along with the rest of the World. ASK WHY.

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This is whats been on my mind for two years now.These terrorist that think
they can kill this nation by doing things like Sept 11.They aren't going to kill
this nation.Cause of us who servive will only become stronger.And they
stronger we become only makes it harder to tear this nation of ours down.So I say to
all you out there agianst this nation.What doesn't kill us only makes us
stronger and you weaker.I'm going to take a page out of the marines book.SEMPER
FI.Which means Always Faithful.And I can speak for alot of people when I say I
am faithful to this country.I may be some 21 year old guy from West
Virginia.But I'll stand beside anyone in this country.
(name)

Orchard West Virginia

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I read with some amusement the responses to your patriotic ramblings. I want you to know that the rest af the world sees the US as the great evil now. Your 'President' who was installed illegally in the first place, an oil baron, has used 9/11 as an excuse to relentlessly pursue his administration's goal of becoming the richest, greediest people on earth. If what the US brings to other nations can be described as generous then I'd rather be poor thankyou very much. Oil is all that matters to America now. But it's running out, and I personally can't wait.
P.S. Your 'Crying Eagle' is easily the tackiest piece of work I've seen in a long time. I nearly wet myself when it appeared on screen. Bird-brained indeed.

regards,
(name) - British email address.

And...I read with slight disdain your rather pathetic attempt at snobbish sarcasm; nevertheless, I keep in mind the fact that your point of view is just as important as anyone else's. Isn't it funny that there are so many points of view, each so different, yet the purveyors and holders of those points of view each thinks his is the one that is right...the one that is correct? You obviously think that yours is the superior point of view, yet I must point out that for you to say, "I want you to know that the rest af (sic) the world sees the US as the great evil now", is rather stupid, don't you think? How can you purport to speak for the rest of the world? If, as you said, you read the responses to my "patriotic ramblings" (and what are yours... Sarcastic ramblings?), then it should be clear to you that there are indeed points of view, presumably also on this planet, that are quite different than yours. If that superior intellect of yours requires that you read again those responses to my patriotic ramblings, then, hopefully, upon your having done so, perhaps it will somehow succeed in reaching that most elementary conclusion. Nah. I doubt it. You hold your point of view just as strongly as any of the others. And I think that is great. And that is why I post these points of view here :-) Have a good one, Brit. (-)Zilla(-)

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Hello.
I have just read several of the postings here, and, speaking as a =
British ex-pat, am disgusted with most of the comments from fellow =
Brits. Did they actually enjoy the terrorist activities of the I.R.A., =
and that it was wrong to try and stop them? Short-term memory loss can =
be cured I believe.

I just felt that I had to say that I am completely behind the decision =
by the British and American governments to go into Afghanistan and later =
to hunt for Hussein in Iraq. That's saying something, because I think =
Tony Blair is a liar and all-round idiot. For once he followed his heart =
and did what he thought was right.

Britain used to be Great, but not any more. People such as those who =
posted the letters condemning the USA and Britain are responsible for =
that, stood waving their white flags or white feathers. We should all be =
grateful to nations who are willing to stand up to tyrants and =
dictators, as the British did in 1939. What sort of world would it be =
now if we hadn't? One thing is for sure: the whole of Europe would be =
singing 'Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles' every morning.

What you read before is not the view of a whole country. Even though I =
no longer live in Britain, I still have a British passport and still a =
British opinion.

To read these pages brought back terrible memories of Sept 11 2001, and =
I'm still saddened that something so horrific could be committed by a =
member of the human(?) race.

We have to continue what we're doing in the Middle East and other places =
in the world, and shouldn't forget the armed forces from all across the =
globe who are there now. My thoughts go out to you and the families who =
want to have you back at home. You have, though, an important job to do, =
and may God help you to finish it quickly.

I for one am proud to say that I would stand next to each and every =
American, shoulder to shoulder. You are my brothers, my sisters, my =
nephews and nieces, my aunts and uncles. You are my parents, you are my =
children. You are my friends. You are my family.

May your God go with you.

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Dear Thumbzilla Guy--

I am a 38 year old woman, an artist/writer/former sex worker living in San
Francisco.

In these polarized times, I also consider myself a dissident, and am completely
unashamed of my dissidence because my heart and mind tell me it's the only
proper response to criminal theft, mismanagement, repressive extreme acts and
all the other sorts of things the Bush II folks have vandalized their offices by
doing.

It is not that I am against war, per se; my feeling is that if one nation
attacks another, the attacked nation has every reason to defend itself and
should be adequately prepared to do so. It should never be cheered on when it
has flagrantly and obviously been fomented for profit and power alone.

The two-plus years separating us, at this point, from 9/11/01 have seen turn up
some more solid evidence of what my gut feelings have been telling me all
along about that event- and what really must be acknowledged as a massive
multimedia campaign to use it to galvanize the people of the USA into something
cohesive and bellicose, VERY conservative, and distinctly non-democratic. It's
a very old trick they're playing and it goes like this:

You tell the people over and over again that they're in jeopardy, in imminent
peril of outside aggressive attack, you make just enough mayhem yourself to look
like a plausible example of the kind of danger that awaits them...and then get
the presses rolling doubletime full of repetitive drum-like headlines and
soundbytes: saying in every way possible that "THEY (whoever the THEY of the
moment may be) are gonna get you unless you let us save you from them by buying
our protective services..." Hitler and Stalin and Mussolini did it, Mafia dons
do it, kings, emperors, they do it. Anyone with enough power, enough friends and
enough money to make mayhem and run a story can do it. (Mafia dons use word of
mouth instead of news agencies, and make it even more effective and scary.)

Once they have us good and scared, you spend a little time slowly taking one
privelege after another away from them - all the while keeping up the scare
talk, accellerating it here and there, letting it rest, building it to crescendo
again...and do this until the citizenry is actually more afraid of you than the
ominous enemy you scared them with, but is barely aware of it after trusting you
so long and also not eager to be proved a fool, therefore VERY inclined to
resist asking questions, even privately, for fear they'll not like the
answers...and it happens on some barely conscious level behind the mind's eye.

When they're too powerless to conceivably be able to stop you once they realize
what you've been up to, you takethem for every penny they're worth and then
some. After which they will fight you. So you fight back, and win, because now
you have a great huge load of your citizenry's wealth!

It's bloody ugly. It's the Game. I hate it and see how it kills us.


Since I write a column and also keep up with the research of the REAL 9/11
Commission, created by people like Mike Ruppert and Alex Jones, the ones who are
asking questions about what happened instead of just making trite,
emotionally-stirring, hollow evasive statements like that made by Condoleeza
Rice...who had the nerve to say that we "ought to think more about what 9/11 did
to us" than to think about who did it and why it got done.

Perhaps because the ones who have some part of the responsibility do not wish to
have this discovered...and they know that as long as people remain emotional -
angry, sad and scared - they have a very strong drive to surrender their
individuality to some version of larger common good, whether it is religious,
political, ethnic - or all of these things. In such a state of mind, an
individual becomes much more willing to let go of his or her personal freedom
and privacy, and much more likely to be willing to kill or to die for that
larger thing that s/he has attached himself/herself to.

The current government, which is one we did not elect and is thus fraudulent
from the get-go ( The fact that Gore got the majority at final count was
officially stated by the NY Times - oddly enough - in the first week of
September 2001...how very convenient for the phony one that we didn't elect, the
one who stole the office. Why have so many people decided to just sit back and
allow this blatant attack on democracy to go completely ignored? For one thing,
it would interfere with that warm fuzzy feeling of being at one with the Big
National Eagle of Violence, Vigilance and Vicious Vengeance that the Bush
politico-unit has been cultivating for the past two years. People don't like to
be reminded that they've been DUPED. They like being RIGHT, not wrong.
However, we're going to have to admit we goofed on this. We allowed Bush to
stay in office, never questioned his handling of anything even though it's been
highly strange and often gallingly disturbing at times.

And all because of 9/11. While Bush STILL refuses to let the public know what
happened to the black boxes from the planes. While Osama Bin Laden has still
not been caught. While evidence of a LOT of foreknowledge in the form of
strange money transfers and orders to stay off jets has shown up, more of it all
the time. We want to believe in the perfect, Hollywood-movie styled story of
Flight 93 since we were all raised in the constant presence of TV and film,
where everything gets solved in 30 minutes to a couple hours or so, and the
people look perfect, and are all either absolutely "good guys" or "bad guys".

But it's time to look at a very real possibility that 9/11 has been an "American
Reichstag" - in Hitler's Germany, the Reichstag (akin to a Parliament building
or our Congress) burned down in a big non-accidental fire, and Hitler built and
sealed his regime on the public outrage he and his propagandists drummed up by
blaming the fire - which was started by their own people - on the opposition,
which at that time was Communists.

The facts - and omissions - surrounding Bush's people and 9/11 speak for
themselves if you look for them and pay attention. But what REALLY convinced me
was something else. Pay close attention to a video of his first speech to
America following the attacks. Look at his face and listen to his voice, and
you might hear and see how unsurprised he is - and even more chillingly, how
utterly unaffected he is emotionally, even while his words wax into mawkishness
and "griefsploitation" rhetoric. I have a strange gift or curse, depending on
situation, of ALWATS being able to see RIGHT AWAY if someone lies by watching
their face and listening to the tones of voice: either alone won't do it, it has
to be the interaction of both at the same time for me to tell...because it has
something to do with the affect of a SPECIFIC kind of stress that guilt throws
the muscles into. This is not just schizobabble, it's what lie detectors are
based on - I think they call it a galvanic response.

Mark my words, Bush did not just KNOW the attacks might happen: one or more
individuals connected closely to him arranged it with the Saudis, although
whether it was for the benefit of themselves, Bush and Co. or someone else
entirely...that part is not yet clear. Might be if he would allow an actual
investigation, and not just this farcical "commission" made up of people who
only parrot what he tells them to say...and distract the press from the fact
that there are 20 pages of that 9/11 Report that he will NOT let ANYBODY
ANYWHERE look at. Maybe two years ago it would be logical that it would disrupt
the effort to track down terrorists to hide data about 9/11, but to do so two
years after the fact just smells badly fishy.

I see lots of angry, patriotic sentences sprinkled by you on these pages so I
assume you support all the things Bush is doing despite the lies, the weird
nonsense, the hiding for no reason...but if you're a true patriot, I beg you,
look at what could be happening here and please join those of your fellow
countrymen and countrywoman who have been calling attention to the discrepancies.

Thanks for considering these words.

Please visit one or more of these three links - there are scads more I could
list but instead these are two starting points and a third is a page full of
links to skim...not only covering 9/11 skepticism and questions unanswered
pertaining to that day's events, but other topics in the field of what I have
lately come to call "transpiracy research" - I respond to people who call me a
conspiracy nut with the answer that I am not a conspiracy researcher, but a
transpiracy researcher - the difference being I can deal with being proven wrong
while certain species of paranoid kook find it virtually impossible.

it's not conspiracy we are trying to prove ABOVE trying to find out what
happened, i.e. what actually transpired.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/02_11_02_lucy.html -
Oh Lucy, You Got a lotta Splainin' to Do
If I were you I'd start here - I think it's probably the best one on the site.

911 Timeline - http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project
really gives one a look at the vast amount of LOOSE ENDS we are looking at in
the official story

FTW Link List
I ought to mention I have never before in my life even thought of shelling out
twenty bucks to see a guy and his friends give a whole afternoon of
presentations and talks. I did last week and am glad I did, I learned much and
was never confused or bored because he's good at it. I do not like that FTW has
a 'subscriber area' and will be notifying him of my feelings on this...I dont
think ANY one should be profiting from 911, us included. If he just charged
enough to maintain the site it would be acceptable to me but seems to charge
slightly more than he ought to...[shrug]

still, he is the #1 authority on the subject - and of all things an ex-narc,
someone I never dreamed I'd be on the same side of any fence with...what strange
changes these times bring.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/links.html

Post Note:

Ironically, I'd come to your site to get away from the politics, the pundits,
all the florid drama and emotion and immerse myself in some healthy libidinous
energy. I picked your link from a page of similar ones, and after fishing
myself through your ad splashes, I find myself looking at an eagle and a 9/11
page.

I came THAT close to putting a hole through my fucking monitor...then calmed down.

Maybe there ARE a FEW places where it would be nice not to have to be confronted
with even THINKING about airplanes full of screaming people colliding with
office buildings - surely one of them is a site people go to for sexual
arousal?! Hel-lo?

You support Bush very strongly for someone with an adult website - if his people
have their way, and if they are elected (or steal the election a second time)
they may come to be slowly ceasing to exist. I know the things make money but
not that much...because making them is my livelihood, or rather part of it.

I am not asking you to consider all I wrote above for me.
I am asking you to consider it for the United States.
And those "freedoms" spoken so loudly of...
and diminishing...one by one.

Normally, as those of you who have read these pages know, I do not post the web site address when someone refers to a website in their email. In the above email, however, I did include the web site addresses to which the writer refers. I think that this email is interesting, intriguing, and well-written. It is spoken from the heart by an American who, I believe, is what this country is all about: the freedom of speech and thought that drives this country forward and is the engine of change that always pushes the cycles of our ever changing government. It is freedom of speech that helps strike the balance whenever things get too far out of balance in our great country. Thank God we do not have a one-party system in this country of ours. Thank God for patriots who are from the many parameters along the political spectrum in this great country of ours. When the time for change comes, they shall be the ones who are the spark, the catalyst of that change.

Those who do not vote deem themselves to be irrelevant. Those who do vote will be the voices of the American people. No matter what your political persuasion or your ideological belief, be sure you have registered to vote! If you do not vote, then you are trashing the greatest privilege and the most awesome power that you as an American have. This is the year 2004, and in November we shall elect a new president, or re-elect our current president. You have the power to be a part of that decision. If you have not registered to vote, then you must, as a meaningful American, register as soon as possible. And, when the day comes, you must, in all good conscience, go and utilize your power and cast your vote! Fail to do this, and you pretty much become a meaningless American.

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